Minutes of the Regular Meeting of December 4, 2008


(As approved at the regular meeting of February 5, 2009)


The San Francisco Public Library Commission held a regular meeting on Thursday, December 4, 2008, in the Koret Auditorium, Main Library.


The meeting was called to order at 4:38 pm. 


Commissioners present:  Del Portillo, Gomez, Harris, Kane, Lee and Munson.


Commissioner Chin arrived at 5:30 pm.


Luis Herrera, City Librarian, said he wanted to acknowledge some of the staff members who retired in the last fiscal year and who are in attendance.  He recognized Grace Ruth with 42 years of service; Edwina Tengco with 20 years of service and Margaret Faubion with 15 years of service.  He each of them certificates and thanked them for their service to the library and people of San Francisco.




An anonymous citizen said that he is just as much interested in the mechanisms of dehumanization as he is in the public library.  He said the public library and our ideas about democracy and universal education were supposed to be the mechanisms that broke through the dehumanization and barriers in our society that were characterized by class and loss of opportunity.  He said it is problematic that we now understand that education and access to information is only a partial solution, because it is really access to the truth that is more important.  He said R.D. Laing is the intellectual who mapped the territory of how the psychological mechanisms worked to dehumanize people.  He said the Robber Barons of the 21st century are starting to mimic the Robber Barons of the 20th century.  He said the reason we know this is that the mechanisms are the same.  He said at the beginning of the 20th century people were barred from redeeming their social and cultural life


Peter Warfield said the library has a book called What Every Librarian Should Know about Electronic Privacy.  He said he recommends it to anyone interested in the subject or in RFID.  He said there is a 27 page chapter on RFID which he does not endorse entirely but he was pleased to see his name as well as others who had a serious concern with RFID at the time the Library tried to install it.  He said a lot of the literature available in the library unfortunately throws a blanket over the names of the individuals and groups who have opposed RFID.  He said in that respect this book is a step forward.  He said there is another book he has mentioned before entitled “Spy Chips: How Major Corporations and Government Plan to Track your Every Move with RFID.”  He said to his knowledge it is the only serious entire book on the subject of the very serious privacy threats that RFID poses.  He said this Commission voted two years in a row for funding for this technology.  He said fortunately a lot of people successfully got the Supervisors to not fund this problematic technology.  He said this book is unfortunately not in the library’s collection and he said this is a very serious gap.  He said the book ought to be in the collection.


Donna Bero, Friends of the Library, said due to the very full agenda she will not give a Friends Report as stated on the agenda but she had two things she wanted to tell the Commission about.  She said on Monday, December 8, the new United States Poet Laureate, Kay Ryan will be speaking at Fort Mason at 7:00 pm and everyone is welcome.  She said this is a spectacular opportunity to see a true national treasure.  She said on November 21 in Sacramento the Library was awarded the Governor’s Historic Preservation Award for the Noe Valley Library Branch.  She said it was a wonderful reception that State Librarian Susan Hildreth, Luis Herrera and others attended.  She said it was wonderful moment and something that the Commission should be proud of.  She presented the award itself to the City Librarian.


Luis Herrera, City Librarian said this is a team effort and said that the Commission along with the architects submitted the application for the award.


Melissa Riley said there would not be a Labor Union Report at today’s meeting.




Lena Chen, Bond Program Manager Branch Library Improvement Program, said they will be discussing two branches in the peer review today.  She said a response to the comments received today will be presented to the Commission at a future meeting.  She gave the background on the new Bayview/Anna E. Waden branch and said it was the 13th branch of the San Francisco Public Library System.  She said in June 2008 the Commission voted to explore property acquisition for a new library.  The branch was changed from a renovation with expansion to a new library facility on the site of the existing building and adjacent property.  She said the new library will be approximately 9,000 sq. ft.


Kacey Jurgens, Thomas Hacker Architects, Inc. gave a presentation on the early schematic design and the scope of the project.  She said there are sustainable building goals and an integration of art into the project. She showed the developed floor plan and explained the areas for children, teens and adults.  She said the courtyard would have seating and trees and could be used after hours.   She said they were proposing a movable wall between the children’s room and community room to make the areas larger or smaller as needed.  She said one of the concerns they have heard is about the entry and whether it has enough punch.  She said they have made some changes to help mark the entrance area.


Brian Bannon, Chief of Branches, said the library has standards in place for things like durability and maintenance and that we want designated areas for programming, teens, children and adults.  He said there is also a process for working with the community to hear about priorities and desires for the branch.  He said the courtyard allows for more program space.  He said he knows this will be a very busy branch so the librarians from the branch, security, maintenance, and information technology staff have all been involved with the design process.  He said as a design team they are very satisfied with the design at this time.


Lena Chen, Bond Program Manager, introduced the Peer Reviewers.  She said Carol Simmons has been the Director of the Daly City Library since 2003.  She said she holds a M.S., L.I.S. degree from the University of Illinois in Urbana-Champaign and a B.A. from the University of Notre Dame.  She said Mark Cavagnero, FAIA, is the Founding Principal of Mark Cavagnero Associates, which he began in 1992.  He holds a Bachelor of Arts degree from Harvard University and a Master of Architecture degree from the University of California, Berkeley.


Carol Simmons, Director of the Daly City Library, thanked the Library staff for inviting her to participate in the process.  She said the new proposed branch provides a wonderful opportunity for the library.  She said she particularly likes the idea of a living roof and would like to see complimentary landscaping on the roof and in the courtyard.  She said she likes the proposed use of the African art motif and colors.  She said it would also be wonderful to have a reference in the building to the shipbuilding history of this neighborhood.  She said the general layout is very thoughtful but she would recommend a few changes.  She said the  staff work area might be better located length wise along Revere Avenue.  She recommended having decorative bike rakes along the wall.  She recommended carving out a soft space and an area for a parent/teacher collection.  She said the meeting room space might benefit from a partition to break it up for smaller meetings.  She recommended having a counter sink and cabinet that allows for refreshments.  She recommended possibly radiating the stacks from the entrance to the interior.  She said having a teen space is very important.  She said she loves the interior courtyard and there are lots of possibilities for the various spaces.


Mark Cavagnero, Mark Cavagnero Associates, said thank you for inviting him to participate in this very informative and thoughtful process. He said he likes the overall design and the thoughtfulness and care that went into it.  He said he agrees with not retaining the existing building and replacing it with a new building.  He said he likes the imbedded courtyard and he likes adding daylight to the building.  He said he likes the idea of the lightness of the massing.  He said the existing building is very heavy.  He said he was originally concerned about the corner entry but the more he looks at it the more he is convinced it is a very strong thing to do.  He said he likes the inherent flexibility of the spaces.  He said he likes the goal of having really balanced light in public spaces and minimizing glare.  He said he likes the idea of rotating the shelving and tables 90 degrees from the Third Street side to provide views to the courtyard.  He said the courtyard could be an organizing element in the building.  He said he would like to see the public art component incorporate the landscaping elements of the roof and the courtyard.  He said he would like to see the African motifs expanded into the landscaping. 


Commissioner Chin entered the meeting. 


Public Comment


Rhonda Winter, a Bayview resident, said she has been to all of the meetings and she wanted to express her appreciation for the process.  She said the library is the heart of the neighborhood.  She said it has been really exciting seeing the transformation of the design.  She said the architects have incorporated a lot of feedback from the community.  She said thank you to the Commission for approving the purchase of the adjacent property. She said this shows a vision for the future and investing in the youth in the neighborhood and she has nothing but praise for the work that has been done and the whole process.


An anonymous citizen said he congratulated Luis Herrera for recommending that public comment be heard on this item prior to continuing on to the next Peer Review.  He said the purchase of the property has yet to be approved by the Board of Supervisors.  He said it is a vacant commercial space that changed hands in February, 2005 for $650,000 and once before that in June, 2002 for $350,000.  He said he hopes the Commission will insist on some sort of report on purchasing the property at almost $1.2 million. He said that the design was compatible with the neighborhood and gave a sense of openness.  He said there is very little area to sit down and talk to people.  He said there was a great deal of material presented to the community and he wondered if that information was presented to the Peer Reviewers as well.


Lydia Vincent, a Bayview resident, said she is very excited about the project.  She said Bayview is going through a lot of redevelopment and the community welcomes a brand new building and that it flows into the revitalization of the community.  She said the community is very excited about being a part of the process at the onset.  She said it is wonderful working with Linda Brooks-Burton and Brian Bannon on this project.


Verga Newman, said she operates a faith-based after school program, and said they have a very strong relationship with the Bayview Library.  She said they are ecstatic about having a brand new library.  She said the room was overflowing with people at the community meetings.  She said everyone had an opportunity to express themselves.  She said it was an invigorating meeting and showed how the community can come together and express diverse ideas and come to a consensus.  She said she will be involved in the fundraising efforts as well.  She said she is looking forward to the Black History celebration at the library and the fact that the branch is now open on Sundays.


Rita Collins, resident of Bayview/Hunters Point, said she agrees wholeheartedly with most of the things already said.  She said she was really happy with the design and that it incorporates so many of the ideas from the community.  She said she supports the current design.  She said the courtyard area is really important to the community.  She said thank you for the process and the community involvement.


Peter Warfield said the design looks interesting and he is glad there is a process that the people in the community approve.  He said the total square footage looks like it is going up about 40% and yet the adult seats have been reduced from 32 to 30.  He said the children’s seats have been increased from 19 to 22 and the teen space seats have gone from 3 to 6.  He said the total seating has only gone up from 54 to 58 and that concerns him.  The shelving provides a very small amount for adults a big increase for the teens and a very modest increase for the kids.  He said he doesn’t see any mention of reference desks in the plans at all.  He said there is an emphasis on self-service check out and he would like to hear more about that.


Commission Discussion


Commissioner Lee said the design is excellent.  He asked about the inner courtyard and said we might be able to increase the adult seating area if the courtyard were slightly smaller.


Kacey Jurgens, said they believe the courtyard size is the right size to bring light in and to actually be able to do things in the courtyard.  She said the number of new computer seats also adds to the number of adult seating.


Commissioner Lee said he likes the idea of an expandable meeting room.  He said he loves the green roof but he is concerned about the maintenance.  He said he loves the exterior of the building.


Kacey Jurgens said they are planning for the maintenance of the roof.


Commissioner Del Portillo said she imagines all the bridges and links that can be made to the schools, the community, senior citizens and developing intergenerational programs.  She likes the location of the children’s section.  She said she is delighted with the courtyard space.  She said it is innovative and a lot of good things can happen there.  She said she is concerned about the green roof.  She said City College’s new building on Ocean Avenue was well meant but it is now all brown and there needs to be some way to keep it looking good.


Brian Bannon, Chief of Branches said staff will report back to the Commission with more specifics on the maintenance of the green roof and other issues.  He said you will be able to see the green roof of the building from the inside of the building.


Commissioner Munson said he likes what he sees a lot.  He said he would like to see more flexibility and additional seating.


Brian Bannon, Chief of Branches, said the priority for this branch was to expand the teen space and to make the children’s area more interactive, but they would look at the possibility for more adult seating.


Commissioner Kane said the key to this branch is the inside courtyard.  He said the community wanted this courtyard but it is a high risk high reward idea.  He said Bayview has the best weather in the area, but in Noe Valley they have a courtyard and no one goes out there because it is always foggy.  He said he is not sure if other branch libraries are maintaining their courtyards.  He said this one will have to be maintained because it is inside the library.  He said it might be possible to do a glass ceiling over the courtyard.  He said he loves the design of the building and hopes that it will all work out.


Commissioner Del Portillo said if you had a movable wall around the community room you could have additional seating in that area.  She said she wants to protect the children’s area. 


Commissioner Chin said the building is very elegant and looks magical.  She said she is concerned about the maintenance of the green roof.


Commissioner Del Portillo left the meeting.


Lena Chen, Bond Program Manager Branch Library Improvement Program gave a project description of the Golden Gate Valley Branch Library.  She said Golden Gate Valley is a Carnegie Library built in 1918.  She said it meets the criteria for landmark designation and will be nominated when the work is completed.  The project will be a renovation of the 6,500 sq. ft. library with a small addition of approximately 700 sq. ft.   She said the building will have LEED Silver certification for the interior.  She said the project budget is estimated at $11 million.  She said the branch is scheduled to start construction in the fall of 2009 and open in the summer of 2011.  She said the architects for the project are Tom Eliot Fisch/Paulett Taggart Architects.  She gave a brief biography of each of the firms.


Paulett Taggart said the Golden Gate Valley Branch Library is on the corner of Green and Octavia.  She said there is a small courtyard on the west side of the building.  She showed photographs and explained details of the building.  She explained the proposed renovation.  She said it will receive seismic, accessibility and mechanical upgrades.  She said there will be a small addition with a secondary entry separated from the main building with a glass slot.


Bobbi Fisch said the existing building is beautiful and they will be refreshing the interior.  She showed drawings of the existing floor plan and the proposed floor plan.  She said the program room on the lower level will remain and they will add two additional restrooms.   She said the upper level will include the adult, teen and children’s sections.  She said currently there is not a designated teen area.  She said the work room will approximately double in space.


Brian Bannon, Chief of Branches, said the architects have been provided with background documents and specifications of size.  He said they are very happy with the new configuration of spaces in the building.  He said they are very excited about the teen space.  He said they heard feedback from the community that the historic integrity of the building was really important.  He said the solution for the ADA requirements is very exciting.


Carol Simmons, Director of the Daly City Library, said she is very impressed with the thoughtful and lovely design for this beautiful classic branch.  She said this is a well planned renovation.  She said the exterior of the branch is beautiful and very clean looking.  She said she would suggest trimming the trees because they do obscure the building from the street.  She said the proposed ADA access is both elegant and subtle.  She said the community space will be able to be used when the rest of the library is closed.  She said the up lighting from the top of the stacks and the pendant lighting from the ceiling will be a great improvement from what is currently there.  She said maybe they could switch the shelving area with the seating area to provide a more quiet reading space.  She said the reserve section might be better in the adult area.  She said she is very happy the project includes a teen area.  She said the staff area on the main floor is very well planned. She said she would like to see the pipes covered in some way to match the ceiling. 


Commissioner Lee left the meeting.


Mark Cavagnero said he likes the work he has seen so far very much.  He said he likes the entry.  He said the court could use more identity or presence from the street.  He said lighting and paving would be important for the courtyard.  He said where possible it would be nice to make the interior more contemporary with color and furnishings. He said if possible art work could be borrowed from museums or galleries.  He said he would like to see more freshness to the color of the ceiling.          




Public Comment


An anonymous citizen said it was better to allow public comment on each of the branches having peer reviews.  He said there are so many issues surrounding this library.  He said honoring the historical preservation and the traditions of the past is one of his pet themes.  He said he applauds the solution of the handicapped access.  He said while you want to freshen up the building you want to preserve the patina of tradition.


Peter Warfield said he is extremely disappointed that basic square footage such as total square footage and what is allocated to adults, teens and kids seems to be completely missing from this.  He said it does show square footage for the program room, the staff work room, etc. but the basics are not shown.  He asked how much was being paid for this and said the handouts were completely illegible.  He said he would like to know if the Commissioners have received the same handouts.  He said he would like to know what is being planned with respect to the reference desk, the square footage and all the other things that may or may not be listed in the chart. 


Sue Cauthen said the print on the handouts is so small it is hard to read.  She also said that both libraries have an upper budget level and a different budget level that was higher, so she said she was confused on the budget amount.


Commission Discussion


Commissioner Munson asked about the stage of design development.


Brian Bannon, Chief of Branches, said that the project is in design development.  He said the different stages are pre-design or conceptual design; schematic design or design development; and finally construction documents.  He said at this point they are ready to move on to construction documents.


Commissioner Chin asked about the budget going from $5 million to $11 million. 


Brian Bannon said a large part of the cost in the project is the ADA requirements and the retrofitting that needs to take place.  He said they would be happy to provide more information on this when they come back with the Peer Review response.


Luis Herrera, City Librarian, said the Commission has transferred funds into this project.  He said there have been escalation costs included.


Commissioner Chin asked if there were representatives from the community present on this project.



Steve Harris, resident of Cow Hollow said he is a member of the Board of the Friends but that he is speaking as an individual.  He said the architectural integrity to the building is of the utmost concern to the community.  He said since the library will be maintaining a traditional use for this branch, this is a very creative design.  He said the issue of noise control has been discussed and he hopes that is being addressed.  He said the community appreciates that this is an expensive project but it is a unique architectural treasure.


Commissioner Kane left the meeting.




Luis Herrera, City Librarian, recognized the 2007-2008 library retirees some of whom were recognized at the beginning of the meeting.  He said the retirees were Grace Ruth, Librarian II, 42 years; Betty Gibson, Library Tech Asst. I, 41 years; Dennis Maness, Librarian III, 41 years, Cheryl Delamere, Librarian I, 38 years; Stanley Carroll, Librarian II, 21 years; Annie Fitzpatrick, Library Tech Asst. I, 21 years; Edwina Tengco, Executive Secretary II, 20 years; Arthur Cheroske, Librarian I, 15 years, Margaret Faubion, Librarian I, 15 years; Herbert Moore, Custodian 12 years.


Kathy Lawhun, Chief of Main, said Karen Sundheim has been the Manager of the Hormel Center for almost one year now.  She said she has enhanced the programming, the collections and the partnerships with the Hormel Center.


Karen Sundheim gave an overview of the Hormel Center.  She said it was established in 1996.  She said it collects, preserves, and provides access to material on all aspects of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender experience.    She said there are more than 13,000 books, 850 films, 52 archival collections, and collections of periodicals, music and other items.  She said a current exhibit in the center is the Harvey Milk exhibit.  She showed photographs of the Center, some of the exhibitions and some of the programs.  She talked about upcoming programs and events and she showed the website.


Luis Herrera said that Karen is doing a great job in managing the Hormel Center.


Brian Bannon, Chief of Branches, gave an update on the branch library expanded hours.  He said people were very excited about the expanded hours and that patron counts were up.  He said they will report back with a more detailed presentation.


Marcia Schneider, Chief of Communications, Collections & Adult Services gave an update on Exhibitions and Programs.  She said the Harvey Milk: Private Life/Public Life exhibit is on display in both the Hormel Center and the San Francisco History Center through January 10.  She said the 30th Anniversary of the Establishment of China – U.S. Diplomatic Relations is in the Jewett Gallery from December 12 – January 15.  She said the third annual Holiday Train is in the Fisher Children’s Center from December 7 – January 9.  She said there is public programming including holiday wreath making, eco friendly projects, Christmas time spirituals, and Kwanzaa night.  She said the Library of Congress Experience event will be on December 11 in the Latino/Hispanic Community Room and U.S. Poet Laureate Kay Ryan will be attending and briefly reading.  She said on November 23, the 20th annual Unsung Heroes event took place.  She said President Gomez was the keynote speaker and that she gave a moving tribute to the recent election and the power of being an activist.  She said about 7300 people participated in the One City One Book program. 


Public Comment


An anonymous citizen said he would have liked to have public comment on the retiree honorees who attended the meeting at the beginning of the meeting.  He said he was surprised that Grace Ruth retired with that amount of seniority.  He said he would have liked to have heard some comments from her and been able to heap some phrase on her.  He said he hopes that the Commission will inquire about the status of the cataloging of the Hormel Center collection.   He said in recent years there have been articles about the accessibility of the collection.


Peter Warfield said it would have been nice to comment and hear from the retirees who were present at the beginning of the meeting.  He said it is a tribute to the library that so many librarians have stayed as long as they have.  He said one of the retirees Cheryl Delamere just sparkled and it was wonderful to go ask her anything about Art & Music.    He said the phrase about collecting, preserving and having access to materials in the Hormel Center has not always worked out as well as one hoped.  He said a few years ago he did some research and found that three major collections that had been given to the library had not been processed after 13 years.  He said he is glad patrons are using the additional hours in the branches and he is glad that he and others were able to push to get those hours.


Commission Discussion


President Gomez said there has been a revivification of the Hormel Center Endowment Committee which will be doing work on a lot of different things including cataloging for the Hormel Center.  She thanked Karen Sundheim for the amount of work she has done in the short time she has been at the Hormel Center.  She said the Hormel Center has sprung to life with programs and exhibits.  She said the Milk exhibition really engages people. 




Luis Herrera, City Librarian, said this is an update on the early stages of the 2009/10 budget process. 


Maureen Singleton, Budget Manager, gave an update on the budget climate for San Francisco.  She said the Mayor’s Office has been working with the general fund departments to identify mid-year reductions.  She said currently the Library has not been impacted by this shortfall.  She said additional reductions may be required before the end of this fiscal year.  She explained the projected budget timeline and said it is projected because they do not have all of the instructions from the Mayor’s Office yet for the budget next year.  She said she made estimates based on previous years.  She said they will come back to the Commission on January 15 with a preliminary budget proposal.  She said they will bring the budget back to the Commission in February for final action.  She explained the process following the Commission’s action.


Luis Herrera, City Librarian, said it is a very serious budget climate.  He said the Library is planning a very practical and prudent approach to the budget.  He said the Library does have a healthy reserve.  He went over the budget priorities under services, programs and outreach. 


Jill Bourne, Deputy City Librarian, said other budget priorities are targeted technologies and library collections.  She went over the priorities under those categories.


Luis Herrera, City Librarian, said Facilities and Asset Management and Public Safety and Security are other priorities.


Jill Bourne, Deputy City Librarian, said the last category under budget priorities was workforce development and said it is both internal and external.


Luis Herrera said that not all of the items discussed have cost impacts.  He said Maureen Singleton is doing a fabulous job managing the budget and he said we are in good hands with budget development.


Public Comment


An anonymous citizen said he attended a presentation by the Controller to the General Bond Obligation Committee.  He said he hopes the Commission will be as disturbed as he is to learn that they were just as vague and noncommittal as the presentation they just heard.  He said nobody knows what is going to happen or how bad it is going to be.  Even the Controller is taking a wait and see attitude.  He said it may get so strained that it will affect the library’s budget.  He said he is happy that the library is finally looking at programs for baby boomers. He said he hopes the enhanced print collection will be a very high priority.


Peter Warfield said he thought there was a clear statement from the City Librarian that the library’s income might go down in one or both of the categories from which it gets monies.  He said it is incumbent upon the Commission to find out what the expectations are.  He said with respect to the priorities, he doesn’t see specific priorities.  He said he was a little disappointed to see library collections in the third of multiple windows or pages.  He said he has heard that the library’s circulation has been increasing.  He said books and prints are being used more than ever.  He said he would like to see more art book circulation, more reserve only new materials, and bibliographic education to patrons with regards to library resources.  He said he would like that to be a very high priority.


Commission Discussion


Commissioner Chin said she is interested in more information on the laptops included in the budget.


Jill Bourne, Deputy City Librarian, said that there will be pilot program on checking out laptops. She said it will begin at four branches.  She said research has been done on what other libraries have done and after three months they will review the pilot program.  She said they are looking at low cost laptops. 


Luis Herrera, City Librarian, said the pilot program was approved for the current year’s budget.  He said this is nothing new to libraries and we will be able to provide access to those who don’t have computer access.


President Gomez said her priorities are the temporary services and outreach which will be key to our community connections and goodwill.  She said partnerships with other entities are very important to her.  She said she is happy to see ADA accessibility a priority.  She said she is happy to see enhancement of the print collection and she depends on staff to determine how that is done.  She said downloadable content is very important.  She said public safety and security, workforce development and leadership development are also very important to her.




An anonymous citizen said the minutes show strong points and weaknesses.  He said the point of the anonymous citizen’s comments on page 1 was the pressure on the Library Commission to stick to the original story and as part of those corporate, philanthropic values they say do not be distracted by information, sympathy, process or other social values.  He said the minutes say that he said that and not the corporate philanthropic values. 


Commission lost a quorum and recessed at 7:59 pm and reconvened at 8:01 pm.


Peter Warfield said these minutes are pretty good, but there are things he would like corrected of page 3 the name of the organization he is Executive Director of is the Library Users  Association nor “User”  and he would like that corrected.  He said there is a difficulty in the minutes generally in reporting on the history of the extended hours.  He said in the 2005/06 budget year the Library had a huge surplus and he and others urged the library to provide funding for additional hours.  He said $480,000 was given in the budget for additional hours and the City Librarian repeatedly told that Committee, I cannot recommend adding any hours.  The money was allocated, but not a single minute was added that year using that money.  He said on page 5 he said it is appropriate to include “the Supervisors appropriated $480,000 and the City Librarian opposed adding any hours.”  He said on page 8 it says “The City Librarian in the past asked that no more hours be added” but he would like to see added “and in fact refused to use money allocated for that purpose in 2005/06.”


An anonymous citizen continued his comments before the recess and said that on page 2 Tess Wellborn said that she had been told that the Friends and Foundation were in charge of the furniture and fixtures and he said just because the Friends give money does not mean that it is not the library’s decision on how it is spent.  He said on page 6 Commissioner Del Portillo talked about the difficulty of reaching people who wanted information on citizenship with a website and that she was concerned that the library was not outreaching to that community.  He said on page 8 the minutes say that Commissioner Munson asked the anonymous citizen to stay on topic.  The anonymous citizen said that may have been what Commissioner Munson implied, but what he really said was that the anonymous citizen’s comments were not relevant to the discussion.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     


MOTION: by Commissioner Harris, seconded by Commissioner Munson, to approve the minutes of November 6, 2008 with a correction to page 3 to read “Library Users Association” instead of “Library User Association.”


AYES: 4-0 (Chin, Gomez, Harris, and Munson)


President Gomez said agenda Item No. 8 approval of the Minutes of November 20, 2008 will be carried over until the next meeting.   




MOTION: by Commissioner Chin, seconded by Commissioner Munson to adjourn the regular meeting of Thursday, December 4, 2008.


Public Comment


There was no public comment on this item.


AYES: 4-0 (Chin, Gomez, Harris, and Munson).


The regular meeting of December 4, 2008, of the San Francisco Public Library Commission adjourned at 8:07 pm.


Explanatory documents:  Copies of listed explanatory documents are available as follows:  (1) from the commission secretary/custodian of records, 6th floor, Main Library; (2) in the rear of Koret Auditorium immediately prior to, and during, the meeting; and (3), to the extent possible, on the Public Library’s website  Additional materials not listed as explanatory documents on this agenda, if any, that are distributed to library commissioners prior to or during the meeting in connection with any agenda item will be available to the public for inspection and copying in accordance with Government Code Section 54954.1 and Sunshine Ordinance Sections 67.9, 67.28(b), and 67.28(d).